Posted by Joan. Thank you to all who have given such wonderful suggestions.Thank you especially the members who suggested I go to both countries.. Travel Forum; Shop Online; Rick Steves' Europe. Or do you mean the crowds at football games? Travel Forum › Home / Shop / ... Rick Steves Pocket Paris works best for people taking a short trip, or perhaps a return trip, to Paris. I'm a non-drinker, so I have no clue about how wine or liquor prices compare. Among the areas most frequently mentioned on this forum are Normandy (especially the invasion sites and Mont-St-Michel), Alsace, the Loire Valley, Provence, the Riviera and the Dordogne. Best trip of our lives and can’t wait to try the southern end. TA is great. Based on how difficult this "where to go": decision sounds for you - and your passion for European travel - you'll be back. Taking a wild guess, based strictly on published numbers showing greater for one than the other, I'd say that it might be because visitors to Italy are more spread out than to France. It would be good to know where their thinking is at this point, before more people offer comparisons on France v. Italy. I would recommend Italy, if it is your first time visiting Europe. Choose from these three free options to listen to Rick Steves' Paris Audio Tours: Get the Audio Europe app! The train system is not as extensive, economical or easy to use in either Sweden or Slovenia than it is in either France or Italy. It's the easiest and best experience if you have an iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch, or Android. Norwegian cancels all plans to resume long haul flights, Washington DC area virtual meeting Sunday, January 17, 10:00 am ET, CDC To Extend Negative COVID-19 Test Requirement to All Inbound International Air Travelers, Looking Up European Train Schedules and Routes Online, Navigating Europe by Car: Apps, Maps, and Trip Tips. To me, Rome, Florence and Venice are the big three in Italy. Can't argue with that and can't quite see why so many people knock RS. Rick Steves' Europe. It appears, it is cheaper if I go to Paris for 4 nights, then take 2 hour flight to Italy (2 weeks of Rome, Naples, AMalfi, Matera etc) and then fly to Lisbon for 3 nights and then return home... That whole itinerary is cheaper than one RT to Rome. The way pandemic is going, Spring may be a miracle at this point. It's very hard to be specific when I don't know much about a country.. Level Contributor . Since you've been to Italy before, either go to Tuscany or another It took me a while to look through most of France pictures, and they look amazing.. If nothing about France appeals to you, why go there? Smaller text Larger text. Answer 1 of 13: My wife and I find Rick Steves books very helpful. The Marais District in Paris. I have no idea about France. Even so, a higher-priced air ticket will be well worth the $$ if it's the trip you know you'll joyfully anticipate, and just as joyfully experience? I appreciate Rick Steves' Paris Guide for all the practical information (much not included in the others), particularly for things like day trips. Different trip took the train from Paris to Nice and rented the car there for Provence. Now I have to see where I can sign up for a vaccine... OK, that sounds good; may be the best of both worlds. but never found it. We did something similar in 2019 and connected the two cities with a very inexpensive one way flight. Italy has always been my favorite, but this trip in France last year was one of my favorite trips to Europe and now I think they’re a tie. In the Loire, in addition to all the gorgeous and certainly historic Chateaus, you can also visit Chinon. 4) Alsance-- Strasbourg is great. Airfares come and go. When i was there i felt great. In fact, you could probably do the walks blindfolded at midnight, following the grooves in the road they have worn away. As you've been to Italy, I am sure some parts may make you smile. I suppose "them's fightin' ' words" for some here, but I agree. Despite having lived there a few years, I still have 50+ to-be-seen items on my Rome bucket list!. When I’m in Paris, in addition to those audio tours, my indispensable tool is the Rick Steves Paris guidebook. He wants to infect everybody with the travel bug, because he believes if everyone went out in the world and experienced life the way it's lived in other cultures, the world would be a better place. But I agree that Rome does feel more crowded than Paris. Register. Tour Account › Travel Forum › Home / Travel Forum / France; Please sign in to post. , We've spent time in both (a week in Paris; closer to 2 weeks in Rome) and enjoyed both but Rome hit us on a more visceral level, enough to have returned again + is in the plan for another deliciously long stay. My question is has anyone done the walking tours that are in the book? Italy is probably my top favorite. Now, living in the NL, we often train to Paris as it's less than three hours. New to the forum? Just wondering if anyone has downloaded one of his books to a Kindle? Are they easy to follow? I know the routes and I know the Trenitalia system to take me there.. If we only have Fall for travel, we may extend our trip to 3 weeks and visit Both Paris and then take 2 hour flight to Rome to continue our trip to southern Italy including Amalfi and Puglia. 5) Provence-- Take the high speed train to Lyon then down the Rhone river, stopping at cities on the way to Arles, Avignon, Aix, Monaco, Nice, St. Paul de Vence, Cannes and more. Jump to bottom. Paris forums . Join our lively community of travelers who exchange advice, tips and experiences. Trains and busses provide good access to everywhere. I think that italy is the best especially Naples, Sorrento, Amalfi Coast and the islands of the Gulf of Naples. Frommer's, Fodor's or Rick Steves. You could start with that. Still planning trip to Italy in 2021, but now I see much better flight deals to Paris around Sept 2021. Obviously France is France and Italy is Italy and they are quite different but in terms of those things mentioned one is not better than the other. Search. If it's ONLY the price of airfare that's behind the potential change of plan, I'd keep Italy. This is true of both countries. No but that's OK. It's just if you want to visit a lot of small villages in a region it's more efficient to have a car. If you go in the meantime, please let me know how you fare on the coffee versus bread debate. Gene For example, lots of spots in the Amalfi area are expensive; Puglia is relatively cheap, probably cheaper than anywhere you'd be likely to go in France. And it just takes longer. Or Is it easier to page thru and go back and forth a... Paris. The pictures look lovely. For example you mentioned you were considering a trip to Puglia in Italy, that's one area we rented a car for. My plans for a 2021 trip to Spain turned into plans for a trip to France, and now I'm planning a trip to Rome and the Amalfi Coast instead. Good to know! In general, which has better value in terms of travel, sightseeing, Just follow the millions of other North Americans all doing the walks, book in hand. Paris is magnificent, but it's also super-sized, crowded, and fast-paced. For travelers who want to delve deep into Paris, the full-size Rick Steves Paris guidebook is a better option. :O), That's not to say that Italy's hotspots haven't been uncomfortably overrun during high and shoulder seasons. Just wondering if anyone has downloaded one of his books to a Kindle? If you’re not interested in France and prefer going to Italy, then go to Italy. In the last few years, we've been back to both (my wife was also on the 1966 trip, that's where we fell in love). In Provence in the south of France are many Roman sites, like Arles with its Roman theater, coliseum and the Baths of Constantine and Nimes where Augustus built the Pont du Gard, public baths temples, a forum and more. Parts of each of them are less expensive so it would depend on where you wanted to go. The buildings and spaces of Paris owe a great deal to this historic time. Old timers remember Les Halles as Paris’ gigantic central produce market. One might deduce that The Boot has more individual destinations of interest to tourists - so they're more spread out - than France but again, that's just a guess. Well how did you plan the trip you already took to Italy? Also did a side trip from Lyon to Perouges via train. How long will you have on your trip? However, there is much, much more in France. If you have three weeks, and you have never Been in Italy...Venice Rome Verona Florence Dolomiti Sardinia etc etc are better. I am partial to Italy (and Rome). You are much more familiar with how Italy "works" whereas France is a Great Unknown to you. Returning to the US I flew from Rome into Paris then home. Master the Louvre and Orsay museums. Having been in Paris a couple of times this year, I am able to assure that you can do the Rick Steves walks without taking your book with you. Tour Account › Travel Forum › Home / Watch, Read, Listen / Video / Paris, France: The Marais District; Facebook; Twitter; Pinterest; Email; Share. I've spent a lot of time (about 4-1/2 months) in France (not including Paris) in recent years but less time in Italy, though my time in Italy did include Rome and Puglia. I have spent extensive time in both countries, and in various parts of both countries. I recall reading comments by knowledgeable posters on this forum to the effect that September is the most expensive month of the year for lodging in Paris. Discuss your latest trip and share your top travel tips. I agree that this website is one place to start researching. Thread Tools … I am something of an ancient history buff and soak it up in Italy. The funny thing is I've fallen in love with Paris and the French countryside! My question is has anyone done the walking tours that are in the book? I feel like I need to go to France as part of my European bucket lists. Rue Cler is the perfect, traffic-free market street to call home for a few days. tourists. My point, rather belabored, is that history, dating back to the Romans and extending to WWII is throughout France and quite accessible. Harold did give you good advice. The Naples area is great with Pompeii, Capri, Sorrento and Amalfi Coast, so it ranks high as well. If you want a combination of capital city and beach time, that will require more transportation time in France than in Italy, because you're not guaranteed of beach weather in northern France in mid-summer, much less in September. You'd need to cross your fingers and hope the hotel would still be in business next fall, though. Here's my photos of France: https://andiamo.zenfolio.com/f667172952 Join our lively community of travelers who exchange advice, tips and experiences. Get started! Berlin, on the other hand, you are correct, was very damaged. Wise words from Harold. I could be I was travel weary by then, having been to Belgium, Germany, Switzerland and Italy first. Or is there another one that you would recommend instead. Thank you for all your wonderful suggestions. Rick's videos are here - scroll down to France: https://www.ricksteves.com/watch-read-listen/video/tv-show. And I suggest you start a separate thread saying you need help planning a trip to France, starting in Paris and tell us length of time and what kinds of places you like and you'll get all kinds of suggestions. Soooo, if you're excited about another rodeo in The Boot, then go for it! Still planning trip to Italy in 2021, but now I see much better flight deals to Paris around Sept 2021. Some research, which we all have lots of time for in these Covid days, will open a whole new wonderful world of travel experiences. Rick Steves' Europe. Even though I haven’t posted on this thread since Nov, I am reading every recommendations. In either case, the bulk of those bodies will be found in and around the top 5 attractions so it's not difficult to find breathing room if you allow enough time to explore less-visited corners. My Account . Post questions and answers about travel in France. Not that it can't be done without one, but if you do choose to not have a car it works better to base in a larger town that is a transport hub so to speak and do day trips. How would you answer, without getting a LOT more information, and getting into much more detail about where the person is going, what kinds of travel and sightseeing they had in mind, etc. Like our other Pocket guides, Pocket Paris is smaller than the complete guidebook and in full color (but still offers our best sightseeing advice and a handful of self-guided city walks and museum tours, plus a foldout map). Each can be great or bad, depending on your personal preferences and the places you select. During September in Paris start to get cold in Campania instead there is still very nice temperature, and the landscapes are amazing. I can, however, offer one very specific warning. Watch more chapters about France: I've been to Italy 4 times and France(mostly Paris) 4 times and I prefer Italy because I love Renaissance art and Italian food. While I do not agree with all of his opinions, his guides are well organized and full of useful tips. His European Travel guides are a top-selling series, and they have grossed more than $20,000,000. Happy planning!!! Gettysburg, PA, USA. Now ducking my head. FAQ. … Today's Posts. It seems like a lot of travellers follow his book slavishly. Rick Steves Pickpocketed in Paris! We looked around in the garbage nearby, etc. Thank you for your comment and those pictures. Sure, Rome might own a majority too but a smaller one compared to Paris in the France forum. But if you are trying to decide BETWEEN France and Italy in terms of expense, ease of getting around and things to see - well they are BOTH very near the top of most people's lists. TA is great. 11/14/15 05:45 PM. My original plan was to go to Rome, Naples, Amalfi, Matera and PUglia in the fall. As in Italy, trains go to a lot of the places you'd probably consider visiting. Regardless of where you go, give yourself plenty of time to experience your destinations, rather than just see them. I have been searching Amazon for travel guides and maps, and all three of the above get good reviews. Answer 1 of 13: My wife and I find Rick Steves books very helpful. Last year, we followed the Rick Steves Latin Quarter, Montmartre, and Marais walking tours. In situations where there's no train service and you need to take a bus, it's probably not necessary even to think about the price. Gene, along with being a big fan of Italy, (as am I) it also sounds as if you're working with a comfort-level consideration? I'd call AutoEurope for that. See what I mean. Sip decaf with deconstructionists at a sidewalk café, then step into an Impressionist painting in a tree-lined park. I don't think there's a great difference in restaurant costs, but France has one advantage: French restaurants often offer really good weekday-lunch deals. But aside from the comfort factor, it doesn't appear as if you're all that jazzed about France to begin with so why keep it on the table? So, if you really Thank you for suggesting that interEuropean trip.. never thought it would be cheaper.. last year, we went to France for two weeks. Jump to bottom. My husband would definitely chose Italy. All forums . :O). Demolished in the 1970s, it was replaced with an underground shopping mall. Eleanor (mother of Richard the LionHeart) spent the end of her life in nearby Fontevraud Abbey. want to be in Italy, don't go to France just because of a low airfare Suppose someone were to ask you, "I had planned to visit the US, but now I want to visit Canada instead. Who would've figure that.. Ha.. Has every traveler loved it like I do? 3,781 posts. In general, which has better value in terms of travel, sightseeing, lodging and food??" For coronavirus (COVID-19) travel information, I know it can be done and would work, but is it more convenient. I haven't noticed lunch specials in Italy; if I'm mistaken about that, I'm sure someone will correct me. Go back to Italy ! As an inexperienced traveler in Italy, who wanted to see EVERYTHING, my new Italian friends would constantly implore me, "Piano, piano!" In Normandy itself you can move from the Bayeux Tapestry, dating to the 11th century an embroidery in wool thread on linen cloth that tells the story Norman conquest of England in the Battle of Hastings to the beaches of Normandy and experience the amazing WWII effort to free Europe. Anothertrip. I'm curious too - I've often wondered why "Rick Steve" gets mentioned so often on the Paris forum. On my first trip to Europe, I flew into Paris and then on to London. I m Italian and i ve been in France twenty times in twenty Years,last time in 2013. Or Is it easier to page thru and go back and forth a... Paris. Video: The Perfect Market Street to Call Home in Paris. In general, which has better value in terms of travel, sightseeing, lodging and food?? Ugh. Answer 1 of 13: My wife and I find Rick Steves books very helpful. Only Italy is Italy. Sounds good to me. A look at the Italy forum has visitors asking about a wider range of locations: Venice, Florence, the Amalfi Coast, the lake district, Sicily (that one appears to have become quite a popular destination!) I think the reason the answers to your question are all over the map are because there really isn't much difference in terms of budget, travel (ways to get around), food, sightseeing. 7 years ago. Feel free to … However, France has plenty of great places to visit. I would gladly repeat it! And the crowd in France is unbearable (I heard.. much more so than Italy). I don't think France has quite the same well-worn tourist path as Italy's Venice-Florence-Rome-Naples/Amalfi route. My suggestion revolves around my initial trips after I relocated to Europe. Since you've been to Italy before, either go to Tuscany or another region you've not seen or go to France. I wouldn't plan a trip based only on airfare, though a really good fare might affect my route. In particular, look at Rick's France videos - some are getting old, but it will give you a taste of whether this is a place you want to learn more about, or whether your just "not feeling France" right now. etc. But if you are drawn to both, then yeah, I'd go with the one with the better airfare. thank you for your contributions to this thread. If I was advising a friend, I'd choose Italy. In your opinion, which of the three is the most useful? Get help planning your trip. If you're prepared to have your main meal at mid-day, you can save quite a bit. In terms of how to plan a trip to France. 6) Bordeaux region of SW France. Not to hijack this thread to France forum, but did you go from town to town via Train in France?? Based on posting history, I don't think Gene has yet been to Italy. https://www.turismoroma.it/en/node/37053. It offers more substantial (and more frequently updated) advice on every front: practicalities, sightseeing, self-guided tours, hotels, restaurants, nightlife, shopping, kids' activities, and the city's history and culture, plus complete chapters on the best day trips. The Loire Valley also allows you to explore the France of the absolute monarchs and their friends and the rather fabulous chateaus of them all. Level Contributor . And for a generation it’s been a mess. A new friend took me inside his home, to the hearth, and introduced me to what was left of his great-grandfather. Guidebooks are also good sources, especially if you can borrow from a library. These suggested itineraries from my Paris guidebook will help you prioritize the many sights, whether you're spending one day, two days, three days, or up to a week in Paris. You could train to Tours and rent a car and explore the gorgeous Loire Valley. I was planning Rome, Amalfi, Puglia trip. My most recent trip to France, summer 2019, I took the train from Lyon to Marseille (side trip to Nimes, via train, and Casis via bus) and from Marseille to Dijon. Gene, I sure do get that you have loved Italy and kind of have the basic infrastructure under control. On that trip, I preferred Italy and wasn't that impressed with Paris. Posted by marte (temecula ca) on 11/14/15 05:25 PM. He also hosts a weekly public radio show that is broadcast nation-wide. Both countries have enough fabulous destinations to keep you busy for a year. elsewhere. 39. To post a question or comment, you need to have an account. For me Paris is better than every other Italian town. And Paris is perhaps our favorite city - to visit - in Europe. Posted by Gene (Pennsylvania) on 10/22/20 03:01 PM. Editing to add, regarding tourism numbers, Gene, according to a couple of sites Rome saw 15 million visitors in 2018. :O) Same for Italy. Italy is an amazing country and so is France. Learn more about the Rick Steves Audio Europe app or download the app now: Prefer podcasts? I usually pick which towns/regions I want to go to by looking at photos. I think he has only researched and developed a detailed plan for a future trip. Just wondering if anyone has downloaded one of his books to a Kindle? 3) Verdun-- For WWI history it is worth a stop. At this moment, the task of having to sort where to go, what to do and HOW do it is looking more than a bit daunting to you. --- basically, slow down! Here's Italy: https://andiamo.zenfolio.com/f739967755. I have to say, those flight prices must be incredible if they are enough to make you completely change your travel plans. Read and write reviews about places to eat and sleep in Europe. Saint Michel. Checking airfare frequently paid off for us!! Posted on January 8, 2021 January 11, 2021. It’s quick and easy to create one! Flight is only 2 hours and cost is under 90 Euro pp. Thank you to all who have contributed. What should I expect , if you can answer this question. In fact most people forget that there was even ANYTHING bombed here. So, if you really want to be in Italy, don't go to France just because of a low airfare - you'll just have a miserable time. In a year, many things can change, with covid, and just in general. ©2021 Rick Steves' Europe, Inc. | Terms of Service | Privacy Policy, https://www.ricksteves.com/watch-read-listen/video/tv-show, https://www.wantedinrome.com/news/rome-in-top-spot-as-italys-art-city-tourism-booms.html. Travel Forum; Shop Online; Rick Steves' Europe. If you had asked about either France or Italy versus say Sweden or Slovenia then there would be an answer. I doubt if the cost of touring one country is more expensive than the other, but large cities like Paris and Rome tend to cost more than smaller cities and towns. Good Luck!!! If you want history, France has centuries of it. So some of those were small rural towns (Casis and Perouges) that were both accessible by public transportation. Smaller text Larger text. If you to to France wanting it will be like Italy, your trip will be a constant series of disappointments and annoyances. Terms of Service | Privacy. Save. Rick Steves' Europe. I haven't been there, but planning a trip. The crowd in front of the Mona Lisa vs. the crowd in the Vatican Museums? Spreading the love around to other countries/cities is good thing! My daughter definitely would choose France. I do almost every year — and it just gets better and better. My Account. I do believe he (and his staff) update information much more diligently than most guides. I'll cheerfully admit to a personal loathing for working out the ins-and-outs of foreign transport! Sweden is more expensive than either France or Italy. That said, I cannot resist quoting my adult son, who has spent lots of time in both countries: "The coffee is much better in Italy, the bread is much better in France.". It doesn't look like Spring trip to Europe will happen. If you're library's open (mine is for picking up reserved books, but not for browsing), see how many France books you can get, so you get a more rounded impression than just the parts of the country Rick discusses. A better deal on a flight to Paris doesn't do you much good if you actually want to go to Italy. I did some remapping of my potential trip for Fall 2021. That effect can be reduced substantially by buying tickets way ahead of time, which will save you money on Italy's fast trains as well. I was in Italy and France for the first time in 1966. I have flown within Europe and the cost is minimal. The bus trip will usually be fairly short, and the cost will typically be too low to worry about. Even with better flight fares to France, it may be counterfeit with higher train, hotel and food costs.. And the crowd in France is unbearable (I heard.. much more so than Italy). Choose a message board from the menus below or see the latest from All Topics. However, he's about forty years behind the times in his understanding of Medieval Europe and it shows. But, for example, I took the train from Paris to Brieve and rented a car there for the Dordogne. Italy vs. France. Or Is it easier to page thru and go back and forth a... Paris. If, on the other hand, you research France, figure out where you want to go, accept that it will be very different from Italy, can accept the prices you turn up in your research, and get excited about going to France for its own sake then go for it and have a great time. Only Italy is Italy. There is plenty to see there, all well worth it. That's OK - we all have our travel preferences. 2) Loire Valley-- Several amazing Chateau to see. Answer 31 of 81: I like Rick Steves guide books, but I also use others as well,and of course the web. Posted on May 13, 2016 January 4, 2018. Tour Account › Travel Forum › Home / Travel Forum / General Europe / Paris ; Please sign in to post. I think the Montmartre tour was the easiest and most relaxed, because the area was less crowded than the Latin Quarter and Marais. I've done some research on Paris for a future trip, and it's my impression Paris hotels are more expensive than Rome hotels. Gene, your title post reminded me of this cartoon by Italian animator Bruno Bozzetto. Sauces or pasta? newtoplaya. Start planning your trip to France! You can always change that flight later, if needed, for a fee. France will always be there for another time. Paris forums . If you to to France wanting it will be like Italy, your trip will be a 419 posts. From Paris you could take a train or fly into one location and return to Paris from another area, eliminating the need to backtrack. Hi Lola, Also, Joan of Arc visited Chinon in 1429 to meet with the dauphin, get him to Rheims to be crowned and then on to battle at Orleans and subsequently her death by fire in May, 1431 in Rouen France. I watch and enjoy Rick Steves TV shows. Answer 61 of 81: I like Rick Steves guide books, but I also use others as well,and of course the web. We enjoy Rick Steves' writing style and his humor, along with the basic tenets of his travel philosophies. Just as an aside, I live in Paris but felt like the sidewalks in central Rome were much more crowded with tourists than I ever feel walking around here. As far as cost on the ground, it was slightly less expensive to eat in Italian cities vs Paris, transportation was slightly less in Italy and museums/historic sites were about the same. We stayed in Blois. Those are two areas NOT easily accessed by train. It's a much larger country (almost twice as large), and visitors tend to head in different directions when they leave Paris. So, Paris is the better town but , all Italy is better than all France (for me) . We had Naples and Matera ( and more) on our plan for a trip last March, but of course we could not go. Paris . Here is lots of info about France from our host, to get you started on any research you want to do. I'd make the same suggestion to you. It would require so much more due diligence regarding France itinerary. In France i liked mt. Maybe you could visit both if you have the time. If you go to France, start and end in Paris and take the train to the countryside. Regarding Italy, you didn't mention Florence and Venice, perhaps you have been there. constant series of disappointments and annoyances. If you have one week holiday only, go to Paris. Paris, has long been the glittering capital of France and its perhaps most glittering time was the age of the Sun King, Louis XIV, who reigned for 72 years starting in 1643 at age 5. Our initial plan was France in Spring and Italy in Fall. Home / Blog; Destination: Paris . Great train system but not to the rural bits. If I take TAP airline, I may take advantage of free stop over at Lisbon to spend 3 nights there as well. Home / Blog; Destination: Paris . Mark Forums Read. Answer 1 of 13: My wife and I find Rick Steves books very helpful. And no Paris wasn’t destroyed in the war. Posted on June 18, 2017 June 16, 2017. But again there is no reason to work yourself up into convincing yourself to go to France. UK. 435 posts . Ah, apologies, Gene. I even mapped out budget for lodging and transportaton. If you really, really want to go to Italy then don't let a better airfare to Italy sway you. By Rick Steves, Steve Smith, and Gene Openshaw. In terms of which one you would LIKE more - no one can answer that. Most are right when you stated I am not too enthusiastic about France, but it maybe because of my unfamiliarity. That's what I meant by saying both Italy and France are fairly similar in terms of getting around. As for Nigel, only reason I mention the Paris crowd can get unbearable is due to statistic that Paris has over 15M visitors in 2019, almost double the Rome tourists.. Or is the crowd not as noticeable? Paris offers sweeping boulevards, chatty crêpe stands, chic boutiques, and world-class art galleries. The gardens of Fontainebleau, Vaux-le-Vicomte, the Tuileries, the Champs-Elysees and Versailles were designed by one man during this time. Most of my travel within France has been via train but I have rented a car in certain areas - mostly in Provence and the Dordogne. Certainly, whatever decision you'll make, you will have a great trip. They seem to be, but reading and actually going... Paris. I've been to Italy 14 times and France 10 times and I love them BOTH (but if I had to choose one Italy would win but just barely). Could visit both if you go to both countries way flight it does n't do you mean the people markets. 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